NEVER MIND THE QUALITY, FEEL THE WIDTH

My first job in advertising in London was at BMP in Paddington.
We had a lovely old delivery-van driver called George.
George was a little, tubby, bald cockney with a gravelly voice.
He was always wheeling and dealing, always had slightly dodgy merchandise to sell.
One day George came round the creative department looking for me.
He said “Ere Dave, you like books don’t cha?”
I said I did.
He said “I’ve got some big books in the van, d’you wanna buy ‘em?”
I said it depended who they were by.
George said “I don’t know nuffink abaht that. But they’re three or four inches thick, abaht a foot wide, and two foot long. They ain’t half big. D’you wanna buy ‘em?”
At the time it seemed odd to me.
Did George really think size was the first consideration in buying a book?
Did he imagine bookshops were divided into two sections?
‘Big Books’, and ‘Little Books’.
If you like books a lot you go in the ‘Big Books’ section.
If you don’t like books much you go in the ‘Little Books’ section.
That seems silly to us.
But hang on.
If it’s so silly, how come we do our jobs that way then?
When I talk to people from different ad agencies all over London, they’re constantly filling in timesheets.
To work out how long they spent on a particular job.
Not how good or bad the work was, you notice.
Just how long they spent.
Agencies work out how much of their staff’s time the client can afford.
Then allocate people accordingly.
I hear it all over town.
“We can’t afford a senior planner on this, we can only afford a junior.”
“The art director can only have half a day on this, we’re already over budget.”
“The copywriter can’t rewrite the copy, we’ve spent all the hours.”
And the bookkeeping takes over.
Is that mad or what?
Einstein said “We must remember, not everything that counts can be measured, and not everything that can be measured counts.”
But we haven’t remembered that.
Quite the opposite.
Measuring has taken over from what counts.
And we’ve forgotten the first rule of advertising.
It doesn’t matter what went into it.
What matters is what people get out of it.
Imagine if we judged everything else this way?

Films:
“No I don’t want to see that film it’s only 97 minutes long. This one is 122 minutes long, that’s a much better film.”

Restaurants:
“Waiter, can I see a menu with information next to each dish about how long it took the farmer to grow the vegetables, and what the chef’s hourly rate is?”

Art:
“I don’t want to go to The Louvre, the Mona Lisa is only eighteen inches square. They’ve got much bigger paintings hanging on the railings outside Hyde Park, let’s go there.”

If we’re looking for a way to judge value for money, we’re using the wrong criteria.
In any other area of life we judge on quality.
How good something is.
It seems in advertising now we can only judge on quantity.
How much do we get?

We’re doing our job the way George sold books.

  • Grant Duncan

    Hi Dave, this is great and I am in total agreement, but, what is the answer?

    I ask because I would love to fix this one day when I have my own agency, but for now I know without it I don’t get paid…

  • Mark Butcher

    Most clients actually buy value. Most agencies dont get that. Mediocrity in advertising lies within agency management and resistance to bury the time sheet. A strange paradox for a creative industry.

  • Dave Trott

    Hi Grant,
    It seems to me that at all the great agencies the motto has always been “You do great work and the money will follow.”
    I don’t think it works the other way round.

  • Dave Trott

    M Butcher,
    I like what you’re saying.
    If we get rid of the time sheet there’s nowhere to hide but the work.

  • sultan spin

    It’s not just advertising. The world all around us changes to quantity instead of quality. Money is the root of all evil as it goes. And the people with the actual balls to stand up and rebel against it don’t stand a chance.

    This article is another example of how quality goes out the window: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/may/08/fast-fashion-death-for-planet?INTCMP=SRCH

  • Chris Wilson

    Agree with Mark 100%. There’s a real mentality of ‘don’t worry about WHAT you’re doing, just bump up the timesheet and we’ll bill ‘em’.

    I think agencies have a big responsibility to sort this out – changing WHAT they do, and even helping a client save money here and there. We tell our clients this all time: use us for this, because we’ll add value; never use us for this, because we won’t be good value – (and actuallly, you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place).

    And it’s not just this industry: accountants, lawyers – anyone in ‘professional services’.

    Outcomes not outputs.

  • Grilla Login

    Quantity Street – doesn’t look as appetizing…

  • Christmas Clarke

    I hope you’re going to remember this guys. Quality not quantity.

  • Grilla Login

    What, there’s loads + loads of the purple 1s with the soft caramel centre – why didn’t u say?!

  • Chris Worsley

    Never judge a book by it’s heft.

  • Grilla Login

    Dave, what were the books that George was attempting to offload… not telephone directories?

  • Matthew Charlton

    Perfectly put Dave. Advertising doesn’t have enough people that understand creativity anymore. I honestly see that everyday. And it’s the industry’s fault. People understand what good creativity looks like when it comes out but have very little idea of what to put in to get it. Hence less comes out every year

  • paulc-c

    Ah the bleeding hearts. Payment by results is what I say. Have the guts to stand up & be counted.
    If my work shifts more product you pay me accordingly.
    If your awareness rises so does my fee
    If I can raise your price point, I raise mine
    If the twits twitter copiously, that’ll be an albatross
    If the fans are signing the book, face the extra bill
    If the call centre has a meltdown, the rupee exchange rate rises.
    If the traffic causes a crash, that’ll be a fine
    If the IPA think I’m effective, you’ll be affected.
    If I win at Cannes, you can cross my palm.
    If, if, if.
    But then advertising doesn’t work does it. It’s just one of too many variables. Stuff that’s out of an agency’s control.
    As George would say. ‘Put yer money where yer mouth is’

  • Christmas Clarke

    Creativity. I mean that ad for VW with the kid as Darth Vadar has got to be up there. I don’t have any money but am saving up to get a VW because of that ad. Creativity

  • Kevin Gordon

    Hi Dave,
    Orbiting the edge of Advertising Space.
    Looking out of my glass capsule window
    across Galaxy Bars…
    exploding Creme Eggs…
    Quality Street meteorites…
    What do I see.
    Is Saturn’s belt made of timesheets?
    Is there a White Hole at the end of a Black Hole?
    By George!
    Its…
    Advertising Social Services.

  • paulc-c

    Ahh the bleeding hearts again. Clients don’t pay us justice for what we do. The system doesn’t work.
    Payment buy results is what I say. Stand up & be counted.
    If I’m so good as an Agency, so creative, so bleeding edge, so in touch, so hot, I’m guaranteed to deliver. Look what I’ve done for others. Guaranteed.
    You pay me & I deliver & if I don’t, don’t pay me.
    If sales go through the roof, you pay the scale.
    If awareness shifts demonstrably, you pay unheard of fees.
    If the traffic causes a crash, you pay the fine.
    If the twitters tweet a bill will follow.
    If the fans sign up to the book, you face the bill.
    If the awards flood in, you’ll pay gold love.
    If,
    If,
    If…
    No if’s or buts, just when.
    But then most advertising doesn’t work, does it? It’s just one of many factors. You can’t measure it can you?
    There’s plenty of books in the big section on that, along with ‘How to fill out time sheets without time wasting’
    Are we resigned to not being able to find a way to measure your edge, influence, propensity & curiosity. Maybe write a book on it & put it in the ‘Little Book’ section along with Bernbach’s finest , the history of D&AD & ‘Ads that changed the world for a fiver’.
    Or are we resigned to just bleed on, again.
    As my tailor used to say ‘stand up & be measured’, or as George might say ‘Put yer money where yer mouth is’
    Nice words Dave.

  • Ray Mason

    Hi Dave (and greetings fellow followers)
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that you once said “unfortunately, the customer doesn’t get to read the brief” – meaning that it’s advertising’s job to distil and distil and distil until what’s left can easily be grasped – and therefore acted on – by the customers. So in a world where people cheerfully pay massive premiums for triple-distilled vodkas and whiskeys, why will so few people pay for triple-distilled thinking and creative? I’ve been successful on two notable occasions by telling the client what the solution should be (as opposed to what their budget said it would be). On both occasions, the enlightened clients had the courage to find the extra money – and on both occasions revenue targets were exceeded by over 200%. Hats off, then, to GM Vauxhall and Midland Mainlne Railways. (And Dave, even if you didn’t say that thing about the brief, I’d like to think that you did and I’ll keep using it as my own personal shibboleth…)

  • Chris Worsley

    As for the article Dave – nice bit of scmutter!

  • Dave Trott

    Hi Ray,
    I’ve said ‘the consumer hasn’t read the brief’ many times.
    Usually to planners who are not judging the ads by how they work as ads (will they stand out, do they communicate?) but are judging them against every minute detail of the brief.
    Forgetting consumers haven’t read te brief and won’t be interested in what we say unless we get their attention.
    Not sure if I agree that it’s a shibboleth though.
    The dictionary defines shibboleth as ‘a word or saying used by adherents of a party, sect, or belief and usually regarded by others as empty of real meaning’.

  • Kevin Gordon

    The consumer is the brief.

  • Adrian Goldthorpe

    Superb Dave,
    totally agree. We should be looking at Value not just Cost.
    A
    PS Did you buy George’s big books?

  • Malcolm Brown

    I remember my days at Dorlands from 1986 1999, working in the retail department being kept well away from the 3rd floor (The Creative floor) where the mysteries of Creativity were hidden,
    because retail was regarded as none creative, I worked as an Art Director for 14yrs on B&Q mainly with one other person and a copywriter which changed on a yearly basis.
    The a mount of work produced was amazing, fantastic Layouts,
    great crafted visuals piles of the stuff and the account team would say i think we’ve got enough now that should fill the car for the client meeting, not interested about the creative content more on the amount and the guy who headed up the account was an Essex boy.

  • Dave Trott

    Adrian,
    Never did, I assume he charged by the lb.
    Malcolm,
    In the eighties I met the B&Q client (owner?) so I’m not surprised.

  • John W.

    Dave,
    I am reminded of the time I took my mother to the Tate.
    On observance of a painting that is a particularly favourite of mine, quipped that she would like it more if only it were bigger.
    Genius.

  • Kevin Gordon

    Hi Malcolm,
    I guess a client meeting went like this:-

    Account Man:-

    “In the next 5 minutes you will be Bejazzeled.
    (Music: Sale of the Century)

    He gets a blank response.

    Never mind these ads”
    (turns the concept boards around quickly)

    “Just look at the quality of the polyboard”.
    (SFX: Taps it with his finger)

    “Listen to that lovely hollow sound!”
    “There’s cash in those fibres!!!”

    Lord Vader:-
    “Are you laughing at my heavy breathing?”

    Account Man:-
    “Oh no Lord Vader!!!!!”

    Lord Vader:- (lifting the account man off the floor by his neck)
    “Get rid of this tatty paper stuck on the back
    or I shall spraymount your head to another galaxy”.

    Account Man:-
    “So I take it you prefer black polyboard?”

    SFX:- Breathing.

    Account Man:-
    I’ll throw in a VW Passat Keyring….

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